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Posts that describe or refer to the Lost Continent of Mu

Searching for Lemulia…

I occasionally receive emails providing more evidence for the lost continent of Mu (sometimes more than occasional.)
One recent email provided information from the Manataka Indian Council website, entitled “Cosmic Return” by Mayan Elder Hunbatz Men.

In the past, I have interacted with Lee Standing Bear Moore, the contact answering emails on the Manataka Indian Council website. Their website is one of the few with information on an artifact depicted in Sacred Symbols of Mu. James called it the Mound Builders Calendar Stone, but it also known as the Arkansas or Washitaw or Manataka Calendar Stone. I covered our conversation as part of my blog post Examining the ‘Mound Builder’s Calendar Stone’

I imagine the reason behind someone sending the link was because it mentioned “Lemuria.” As presented in What’s the Difference Between Lemuria and Mu?, sometimes the names are interchangeable, sometimes not. Another factor are the many differences between what each theory holds as defining Lemuria or Mu. Submerged land appears to be the only common denominator.

Who is Hunbatz Men?
Hunbatz Men is variously identified as a Mayan Shaman, a daykeeper, Ceremonial leader, or a Mayan Elder. He is the author of Secrets of Mayan Science/Religion and other books. He writes in the article the Mayan word for Lemuria is Lemulia and how his people remember their time in Atlantiha (Atlantis.)
Another article on the Manataka Indian Council website, entitled, “The Cosmic New Age has Commenced” is also authored by Hunbatz Men. He writes about a ceremony at the Kukulcan Pyramid in Chichen Itza held on December 21, 2012. During the ceremony he spoke with people of different dimensions while circumambulating the pyramid. It is his belief the Kukulcan pyramid exists in different dimensions. The crystal skull sent from Tibet (and named NAGA K’U) aided them in the ceremony. To quote the text:

This sacred crystal skull was always with us during the whole of the ritual. All the energy it projected to us, together with the energy of the initiates who were with us, contributed to the fulfillment of part of the prophecies. Only with the help and energy projected by Naga K’u and the spirits of the high Tibetan teachers, who were always with us in spirit, we were able to complete our sacred mission.

An article from the CrystalSkulls.com (Secrets Revealed Mysteries Explained,) MAYAN CRYSTAL SKULLS indicates Hunbatz men was one of three Mayan elders to speak before the United Nations. Videos are available.

Another article from the same website outlines the Hunbatz Men Sacred Pilgrimage Journey. Starting in Manhattan, NYC the pilgrimage was to cross the US visiting sacred sites and performing ceremonies with crystal skulls. On 11-11-11 he met up with 13 Mayan elders and 13 crystal skulls for the Gateway Ceremony in Los Angeles.

The search for Lemulia/Lemuria does not go much farther after looking at Hunbatz Men’s activities. The claim of crystal skulls being pre-Columbian Mesoamerican artifacts is a known falsehood. Scientific examination of the surface on those examined indicates the use of high-speed rotary tools, something unavailable prior to the 18th century. Also, the scientific community rejects claims of paranormal phenomena associated with crystal skulls or any connection to Central American mythos. Frankly, it appears this just more New Age drivel, commonly labelled Mayanism.

Father Crespi and the Lost Continent of Mu

When Eric Von Daniken published Gold of the Gods in 1973, it provided an amazing account of a search through the Cueva de los Tayos, the Tayos Cave. Inside was a library of metal plates, gold artifacts and evidence of an ancient, advanced civilization. Father Crespi, a Salesian monk living in Cuenca, Ecuador obtained some of them and eventually amassed a large collection of artifacts. The video below shows some of the artifacts and a portion of the metal library.

In previous postings, the subject of the Tayos Cave has been addressed (see Follow-up on the Cueva de Los Tayos (Tayos Cave).)

Father Crespi

To summarize:
An Ecuadorian Major (Petronio Jaramillo,) stationed in Cuenca, Ecuador created a story after he retired about a cave with ancient artifacts and a metal library of ancient knowledge. Juan Moricz learned about the story and told it to Eric Von Daniken. Von Daniken included the tale (and embellishments) in his book, Gold of the Gods. Subsequent expeditions to the cave have shown no evidence of either Jaramillo’s or Von Daniken’s claims. One element of the story is the ‘metal library.’ Metal plates did exist in the collection of Father Crespi, however, as will be shown, they were/are not a library of ancient knowledge.

Pino Turolla in Beyond the Andes – My Search for the Origins of Pre-Inca Civilization relates visiting with Father Crespi and examining his collection, including the metal plates.

“If I needed any further proof of the doubtful origins of the collection, it came when, with a rather hushed reverence, Father Crespi removed a yellowish metal orb from a concave plate, extended it towards me, and said: “Very ancient, my son, very ancient – with glyphics.” I looked closely at this mysterious orb and it proved to be a float from a toilet mechanism, bearing the legend “RF” (Republique francaise). I chuckled and looked at Father Crespi, thinking he was playing a joke on me. But his face was very serious as he said, “very old, my son, probably three thousand years before the birth of our Lord.”
Beyond the Andes – My Search for the Origins of Pre-Inca Civilization – page 167

After speaking with Father Crespi, Turolla visited the Father Superior, Father Pedro Lova, to ask about the collection. He asked why a barn should house the valuable collection and was answered, “we don’t have the money.” Many months later after becoming better acquainted Father Lova confessed that Father Crespi’s collection was an embarrassment both to himself and the order. When asked if he knew where the collection came from, Father Lova said Father Crespi was secretive and asked if Turolla would find out for him.

At first, I found myself confronted with a wall of silence as I checked around, talking to oldtimers in the area about Father Crespi. There was a definite reticence on their part; but gradually the story emerged. Decades ago, Father Crespi’s mind began to change and he became fascinated with the idea that the ancient Ecuadorian civilizations had sprung from Egypt. He believed that one of the Pharaohs had left Egypt and sailed across the Atlantic Ocean to the mouth of the Amazon. Then he navigated this great river, crossed the east Andean range, and established himself with his court in the southern part of what today is known as Ecuador. Father Crespi gathered together books and pictures of Egyptian, Phoenician, and other Old World cultures, gave them to the natives, and said: “If you ever find anything like this, bring it to me, and I will reward you.”

The Indians and mestizos, being only too glad to oblige, took the pictures and made artifacts according to the designs they had been given. Then they brought them to Father Crespi, telling him they had been found in tolas, tombs, landslides, or whatever. This exchange had been going on for many decades; Father Crespi’s collection continued to grow and some of the native craftsmen had become quite expert in the fabrication and decoration of “ancient” objects made from very modern bronze, brass, copper, and tin.
Beyond the Andes – My Search for the Origins of Pre-Inca Civilization – page 169

The Central Bank of Ecuador purchased many of the artifacts after Father Crespi passed away, however the ‘metal library’ was not among them and remained missing for years.

In March 2016, an internet report yielded that a group of researchers visited Ecuador and saw the artifacts from the Father Crespi collection as well as the “metal library.” The artifacts have been well-cared for, catalogued and housed in storage rooms in the Central Bank of Ecuador. On the other hand, the locked storage area of a dilapidated old building housed the “metal library” in a different location. The scattered plates were obviously not considered to be of any value. In the words of the researchers, “they still looked like little more than modern-day carvings on cheap metal.”

Pacific Proof of a Sunken City?

One proof of the sunken continent of Mu is the alleged evidence discovered during a 1965 expedition to the Pacific Ocean off the coast of Peru. The article “James Churchward and His Lost Pacific Continent,” by Joan T. Griffith, states:

… A few years later Dr. Robert J. Menzies, director of Duke University’s Oceanographic Program, and his colleagues spotted and photographed carved rock columns resting on a muddy plain 6,000 ft. underwater, in the 600-mile-long Milne-Edward Deep, a trench off the coast of Peru.

Strange writing was carved on the columns and nearby, sonar detected strange lumps on the otherwise level bottom, indicative of possible building ruins. Menzies, from the research ship Anton Bruun, stated that the find suggested evidence of a sunken city, as reported in the New York Times, April 17, 1966.

My search of the New York Times Archival website did not produce any results, however, there was a UPI article on the same date in the New York Daily News, entitled “Evidence of Sunken City Found.”(see below) Actually, the story was covered in quite a few different newspapers (Orlando Sentinel, Shreveport Times, etc.)

The article mentions “evidence of possibly carved columns filled with hieroglyphics,” which is not exactly “carved columns,” nor is there a mention of “strange lumps indicative of possible building ruins.” Dr. Menzies does think the idea of a sunken city “seems incredible,” and hopes to visit the region for a firsthand look in a miniature submarine. The article also quotes him as saying the evidence suggests “one of the most exciting finds of this century.”

An article the next day in the Battle Creek Enquirer (Michigan) entitled “Sunken City Believed Seen in Ocean Depths Off Peru” and tagged as from the UPI. (see below)

The description of the evidence found during the expedition in the newer account went on to state: “an ancient city may now rest on the ocean’s floor” and “archaeologists have discovered signs of a civilization which may have predated Peru’s Inca empire by thousands of years.” This would have been a better article to cite to prove the possible existence of ‘Mu.’

Observing the newly added presence of archaeologists on the marine biology expedition, as well as Menzies’ theory that earthquakes and volcanic activity could have caused a city to fall into the sea, I became curious. Were these additional details an embellishment to promote the sales of newspapers or not included in the previous article for some reason? Perhaps an examination of previous coverage of the 1965 expedition of the Anton Bruun would help answer the question.

On December 7, 1965, the Herald-News (Passaic, New Jersey) carried an Associated Press (AP) story entitled, “On the Ocean Floor: Scientific Team’s Explorations Turn Up “Monster,” Strange Columns” by Dean Johnsos (or Dean Johnson.) The article describes the area of investigation as 100 miles off the coastline of Peru and two miles beneath the waters. The major focus of the article describes the capture of living creatures thought to be extinct and that these creatures may be responsible for the tales of giant sea monsters, the leptocephalus. Also cited is, “And they also have a photograph to shake up archaeologists,” and “The picture appears to show several stone columns. And it’s possible that they are manmade…”
The article also appeared in the Rapid City Journal (Rapid City, South Dakota) as “Leptocephalus May Be A Baby Sea Monster” the same day.

On the 9th, The Ottawa Herald (Ottawa, Kansas) headlined page 14 with “Scientific Expedition Discovers Possible “Monster‘” containing the same article with pictures. The Times Record (Troy, New York) also published the article without pictures under the title, “Leptocephalus May Be A Baby Sea Monster.”
On the 11th, the Colorado Springs Gazette-Telegraph published the AP article under the title, “Baby Sea Monster Found off Coast of Peru.” On the 12th, The Jackson Sun (Jackson, Tennessee) published the article under the title, “Ocean Scientists Have Discovered What May Be A Baby Sea Monster.” Numerous newspapers published the AP article under similar titles that day and the following one.

On the 14th, the same AP article appears in the Biddeford-Saco Journal (Biddeford, Maine) with the title, “Baby Sea Monster is Photographed.”

In my search of articles on the voyage of the Anton Bruun, there were 23 articles found with the search terms, “menzies leptocephalus” for the year 1965 (all in December.) A search consisting of “menzies sunken city” produced no results for the year 1965.

Numerous newspapers across the United States continue printing the AP article throughout 1966.

Beginning in March 1966 an article is published in the Rocky Mount Telegraph (Rocky Mount, NC) with the title, “Scientists Seek Sunken City – Was Jules Verne a Prophet?” The source for the article is from the Duke (University) News Bureau. The article describes strange blips showing up on sonar that “didn’t belong there” and “under 6,000 feet of seawater, was what could be the ruins of an ancient city.” The article goes on to mention pictures of “what appear to be carved rock columns… They appear to have some kind of writing on them.” It also mentions the ‘lumps” on the bottom on the vicinity of the columns indicating a sunken city. In addition to identifying the area as prone to earthquakes and volcanoes, the article also states that nearby are ruins of civilizations predating the Inca by thousands of years.

On the same day (27th), The Salt Lake Tribune printed a UPI story entitled, “Expedition Finds Evidence of Sunken City.” It mentions the sonar blips, as well as the strange columns with “some sort of writing on them.” The article also states, “Scientists say there is a chance a city once existed on dry land where the Milne Deep is today.” and “Archaeologists have discovered signs of a civilization which may have predated Peru’s Inca Empire by several thousand years.” This article as well as one from the Associated Press with the same data also appears in newspapers across the United States, including Florida, North Carolina, Indiana, Missouri, New York, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Nevada, Utah and probably every other state.

On the 31st of March, the Waco News-Tribune published an article from Science Service entitled, “Underwater Cameras Spot Carved Columns.” This article mentions two upright columns two feet in diameter sticking five feet out of the mud, two more that had fallen and another squarish angular block. These columns were 80 miles from the coast. It also mentions until further investigations are complete, Dr Menzies was being cautious in explaining the five fragments. Also mentioned is “civilizations predating the Incas by thousands of years are now believed to have existed nearby.”

To recap, the first articles starting in December 1965 focused on the discovery of the “baby sea monster” with a brief mention of the “possibly man-made” columns. At the end of March 1966, the coverage changes to ‘lumps’ on the seabed being the possible remains of a sunken city, the stone columns having an unknown writing on them, the presence of civilizations thousands of years older than the Inca, and that the site may have at one time been above the waves.

The remarkable change in the description of the expedition from one where the focus is on baby sea monsters to one where the focus is on the remains of an ancient civilization begs the question, “why didn’t they lead with the fantastic “ancient civilization” angle?”

Other questions arise as well:
How did a large section of coastline 40 miles wide by 3700 miles long and one hundred miles from the coasts of Peru and Chile fall into the ocean? The subduction of the oceanic Nazca Plate under the South American Plate formed the Atacama Trench. There have been numerous earthquakes recorded and attributed to this convergent boundary which indicate the interaction of the two plates. On the other hand, the earthquake activity does not establish a mechanism for the sinking of an enormous section of coastline to incredible depths.

If the discovery of the suspected ancient sunken city was so compelling, why was there no follow-up expedition to take a closer look at the evidence?

If there was a follow-up expedition and the evidence indicated natural features, would there be accurate reporting or would it become a non-story?

I believe fantastic claims require fantastic evidence. If there are proposed sunken cities in the Atacama Trench or elsewhere on earth, the evidence should be easy to obtain.

There is more information available on the original expedition for those with access: Cruise report, research vessel Anton Bruun, cruise 11